applenaut

Please bring back the workspace tabs

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I'm a fan of Plastic. From the GUI to the feature sets, I think it's near perfect.

However, I'm disappointed at the recent GUI changes to the Plastic SCM client. The quick-switch workspace tabs are now replaced with a drop down menu (top left corner).

For a studio that have multiple projects running concurrently, this takes one more click to switch workspaces. Not a big deal at a glance...until you find yourself having to switch back and forth often as the project manager.

Please consider bringing back the tabs. I don't see a reason for changing the GUI for this just to sacrifice fewer clicks for a few more pixels of screen estate.

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From my perspective current solution is better - tabs worked fine but up to just few workspaces...

I have currently 20 workspaces and drop-down is much more convenient.

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Hi applenaut,

 

Thanks for your suggestion.

 

Unfortunately, we didn't get this feedback from other users, which seem to be happy with the changes in 6.0, so I'm afraid we won't be able to customize the behavior this time.

 

Our goal was initially to move into something like what we have in Mac and Linux, with a switcher and workspace windows. We wanted to associate the window to a workspace, not many, and isolate the repos and workspaces view, which seem like they don't really match inside a given workspace. For instance, typically Plastic on Windows can't start up if you don't have a workspace (in fact, it forces you to create one) while Linux/OS X let you start and then decide if you want to browse repos, create more, go to workspaces, etc.

 

But, then we decided something more compact would do better on Windows. And that's how the "breadcrumb like" style showed up. It also allowed us to gain more vertical space, removing one row completely, which is always a good thing.

 

So, I'm sorry to hear you did not like the changes, and we will listen carefully about what others have to say about this, and we'll react accordingly.

 

Thanks!

 

pablo

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9 hours ago, Misieq said:

From my perspective current solution is better - tabs worked fine but up to just few workspaces...

I have currently 20 workspaces and drop-down is much more convenient.

Do you mind explaining why the tab system is more convenient? 

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9 hours ago, psantosl said:

Hi applenaut,

 

Thanks for your suggestion.

 

Unfortunately, we didn't get this feedback from other users, which seem to be happy with the changes in 6.0, so I'm afraid we won't be able to customize the behavior this time.

 

Our goal was initially to move into something like what we have in Mac and Linux, with a switcher and workspace windows. We wanted to associate the window to a workspace, not many, and isolate the repos and workspaces view, which seem like they don't really match inside a given workspace. For instance, typically Plastic on Windows can't start up if you don't have a workspace (in fact, it forces you to create one) while Linux/OS X let you start and then decide if you want to browse repos, create more, go to workspaces, etc.

 

But, then we decided something more compact would do better on Windows. And that's how the "breadcrumb like" style showed up. It also allowed us to gain more vertical space, removing one row completely, which is always a good thing.

This change is new so I would wait for more feedback to come in. I didn't even know my client was out of date until I had to do a fresh uninstall. So, people may simply not have the chance to update to this version yet.

I think most users are used to having tabs. It's what the software industry landed on as good design. Look at browsers and IDEs for instance. You don't see people wanting to use dropdown menus as a way to navigate through tabs. That would be an ordeal, and that's what I'm experiencing.

I understand why you did what you did but I disagree with the benefit outweighing the 2x the amount of mouse clicks in order to change workspaces. Please consider the scenario above: How would it feel to replace tabs in web browsers with a dropdown menu?

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Tabs are a well-understood concept - but NESTED tabs?  Having two different widgets for two different purposes helps separate them.

Everyone's use case is going to be different but personally I am comfortable with the 6.0 drop down. 

On the other hand, I've found the way global views - workspaces, repositories - mix in with the things like 'items in workspace' , to be really stupid:

This clutters up the workspace view for starters, and with multiple workspaces they get lost.  The obvious way is for this to be some kind of "Global views" set of tabs.  Not sure if that will be significantly more usable - don't just take my opinion.  In some respects they are really singleton views - why have more than one open?  - and should behave  like Preferences does - I mean here not so much the popup window, but that clicking on "Workspaces" in the sidebar would bring up THE workspaces view.   Of course, other people might like to have multiple views with different filters set. Not that you can really do that successfully now.

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